cfr

Can anyone tell me what the Council on Foreign Relations is?

C.F.R. It stand for... Oh wait. NO BUDDY FUCKIN CARES RUMMY! DON"T YOU GET IT? Nobody knows what CFR is & no one reads the damn Constitution. A vast majority of Americans can't quote a single line from the Consitution. Most get the Constitution & Dec of Ind mixed up. Paul could run around all he wants talking about the damn Constitution but no one gives a rat's ass about it. That's why he still comes behind Romney is some of the state primaries. You & your fellow Paul supporters place too much faith in the average American voter. Are you fucking kidding me? Do you think half of the people on this website know what CFR stands for let alone the difference between the Bill of Rights & the Preamble. Get real. Half of these fucking people couldn't locate their home state on a U.S. map. Why do you think Paul only receives something like 6% of a state's vote in the primaries? That's about the amount of people in each state that understand what he's talking about. It's sad but true. People don't care about substance. They want the smoke & mirrors baby. They want the fluff. They want the dog & pony show. They want to feel good. They want to be convinced that things are going to be okay even if they know deep down inside that they aren't. Voter's want to believe for the 1st time in many years that they are actually doing something positive & good when they vote for a candidate rather than picking the lesser of 2 evils. That's what Obama gives them whether it's real or not. Paul is running around the country telling people how fucked up things really are. People don't want to hear that, even though that's what they need to hear. They've been hearing how bad things are for the last 7 years. Paul is telling them it's much worse than they've been told by the mainstream media. That's why Obama could plagiarize someone & the average voter won't care. He could stand up on stage & tell everyone he really wrote King's "I Have a Dream Speech" & people would cheer & applaud. People just want to feel good whether it's authentic or not. Obama, once elected will usher in the Gilded Age of the 21st Century. In order for people to wake up & understand what Paul is telling them is real & urgent we'd have to smash them over the head with this information. And I don't mean that figuratively. The only way, and I mean the ONLY way real change can take place in our democracy is through a revolution. A political, economic & social revolution. Our gov't & our economy must be taken back. They aren't going to give it to us. So to all of you Ron Paul supporters, if you really believe in what Paul is talking about then start a revolution or shut the FUCK up! You can't vote our country into change because as one of my favorite historical figures once said, "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." And no Rummy it's not a communist quote.

Listen Marxy Marx, I posed the question with the hope that one of the other members might do some research. Speaking of other members, I haven't seen any sign of any of them. What's the story. The only thing I see on here is your incessant, communist ranting. If I was looking for that bullshit, I would have read the manifesto or the bible. I do agree about the voters. They want a candidate who seems most like they would be on MTV.

Actually what I said about smashing people over the head i.e. a revolution has nothing to do with communism. Maybe you, like the average voter, need to read up on the so-called founding fathers of your country. Here's a hint, T.J. Also in your spare time between your ranting & raving about the CFR etc read a little diddy by a man named Alexis de Tocqueville. Hardly a communist. He was pro Napolean but had spectacular insight into American Democracy & culture. Rummy, I admire your points of view & we are on the same page so to speak, but there comes a time when one has to decide the proper solution to these problems. Voting is not going to do it. A significant alteration of the American culture that strikes at the American psyche is our only hope. T.J., de Tocqueville, Abe Lincoln, John Jay, & Thomas Paine etc knew this. American history baby! The answers are there. Paul has no idea what the fuck he's doing. He's great & talented at pointing out the REAL problems w/our gov't & the legistlation that he wants to enact would probably fix the problems. But more importantly how do we convince the American people to believe in it? Lincoln, T.J., Paine & company are screaming the answers from their graves! VOTING DOES NOT WORK!!! Keep fighting the good fight & sending your juicy info on CFR etc.

Hey what happened to the Real God? Maybe he resigned! HA HA HA Or maybe he's reading up on his American History after unclekarl gave him that spanking. He couldn't handle the truth. Another great historical figure to add to unclekarl's list would be Fredrick Douglass. He was ahead of his time & saw things that many people didn't until many years later. John Brown, W.E.B. Dubois, Eugene Debbs, Emma Goldman, Albert Einstein, John Dewey... are all great American historical figures to find the answers to many of our political, economic & social problems. We need to make a reading list for these people.

Yes, Einstein was truly a great american; for 15 years.

I don't get it.

Einstein didn't become a U.S. citizen until 1940. He died in 1955. Why the Real God would make reference to that little tidbit of info is beyond me. I would guess that he's saying that Einstein wasn't really a U.S. citizen compared to the other writers you referenced. Neither was Goldman. I guess Real God believes that one has to be a U.S. citizen to be considered an American historical figure. If that's the case then fuck all of the "founding fathers". Right? Think about it. They weren't U.S. citizens for that long. Prior to winning the Revolution they were inhabitants of an English colony not American citizens. Take Benjamin Franklin for example. According to Real God his classification as an American historical figure should be called into question like Einstein. Franklin died in 1790. That was only 14yrs after the Declaration of Independence. Actually U.S. citizenship wasn't enacted until March of 1790, just 1 month prior to Franklin's death. So I guess Real God would definitely question Franklin as an authentic American historical figure because he was a legal U.S. citizen for only 1 month. Real God needs to rewrite American history to support his argument. Kind of counterintuitive isn't it? But lets not pick on Real God. Emma Goldman shouldn't be considered an American historical figure compared to other's that you referenced. She only lived in the U.S. on & off for a few years. She was born in Lithuiania. She never became a U.S. citizen. She was deported once under the Anarchist Exclusion Act. She joined the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. She died in Toronto after a brief return to the U.S. I would not classify her as an American historical figure. I would disagree with your inclusion of her in your list

Sounds like someone may need to change his tampon. The term "American historical figure" denotes that the historical figure is American.

Hey! I think you guys got a bit off topic. But it's an interesting one that I can't resist. American historical figure does denote American but what makes an American an American? Do they have to be born here? Or is there some sort of bar they'd have to meet i.e. a certain amount of time they'd have to live in the states to be considered an American? Would you considered Franklin an American or not? I understand bp12's argument that you may not consider him an American because he wasn't technically born in America nor did he technically live in America for that long - 14 yrs - 1 yr less than Einstein. But I'll tell you 1 thing start talking about real shit you fucks! And how dear you Real God, criticize me, oh I mean Freddie's list of American historical figures. It sounds like both of you guys could crack walnuts in your assholes! Anyway lets pull apart Obama's politics so to speak.

So I guess you're not going to take the bait & get down to brass tacks, which lies well beyond the cfr. If you really want to unpack some shit we could do so but I was trying to avoid going over the heads of the people on this site. But then again, it looks like there are very few people anyway. Answer the question, I'm ready for some chessboxing!

I'd also like to hear about the cfr some more so we can solve this problem. Ha, ha, ha. I like Wu-Tang. I just downloaded some of their old videos. Shimy, shimy ya!

Let's just keep supporting a cfr member. With the dollar crashing, the Amero will look like a great option.

One world order. Have you read 1984? It speaks to this type of hyperbole. So does Revelations. Anyway, I'm just asking you to explain your take & knowledge on the CFR. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less & then we'll take it from there. You brought up this subject. How about we start with how the CFR works, who are the members, & why it exists. But if you don't want to then lets move on to something else.

This thread is kind of long, but if you scroll to the top you'll see that I originally posed the question which no one has cared to answer yet.

Look you know that I know what the goddamn CFR is okay. It's your baby, bring it to maturity! Or you could just do what I do w/my kids & stick is some back room while I download porn

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